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To use the tool, please prove you are human: / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /. look at all that rationalization If you have no means to get it, it's not for you. Not every community has to be open and inclusive of everyone. If Koreans want to stick to local Korean folks only as members, that's their deal. They're well within their rights to do that. There's no rule in the papercraft world that says EVERYONE has to have access to EVERYTHING that has ever been designed. Also, take a closer look at what you wrote.
If they provided a legitimate route for Westerners, then many of us would follow that route operative word there being 'many'. All it takes is a select few to ruin it for everyone else (PA and Chapsy, anyone?). Many foreign designers recognize this, and that is exactly why they are so leery of sales to foreigners. Like I said earlier, these people spend hundreds, if not thousands of hours to design models such as this. If you sell it to someone outside the community of people you know and that person puts it up for everyone to download, all that work you put into it basically amounts to nothing. No matter what rationalizations you come up with, those sorts of people are out there and they will NEVER follow the 'legitimate route'.
If I were in the designer's shoes I'd do whatever I can to make sure those people don't get their hands on my stuff, even if that means alienating a whole group of people. All it takes is a select few to ruin it How does something being shared 'ruin' it? Yes, some would still pirate it. But a lockdown ignores the net effect. Providing a legitimate route, you get some income and some piracy.
Total lockdown equals zero income and 100% piracy in the excluded market. Whether it's 'for' that market or not is irrelevant. The economy is global now whether anyone likes it or not, and anyone with a rudimentary understanding of human behavior can grasp that this is what people will do. Prohibition never works, it just insures that the only market is a black market. You're still rationalizing. The model would essentially be 'ruined' by virtue of it being unsellable anymore.
All your customers will take the path of least resistance, which would be grabbing the file for free. You're also still talking like absolutely no one has access to buy these models. Korean people can still buy whatever they want just fine. Us foreigners are the only ones left out, and for good reason. They've tried accepting foreigners before and selling to them, and then you get the chapsy/pa incident as thanks, not to mention the myriad chinese and indonesian folks that make money selling prints of Korean and Japanese designs.
I also like how you're still grasping at the EVERYONE concept. No designer is obligated to sell to everyone. If they want to keep sales local, it is wholly their choice to keep them local. All that your arguments do is make you look extremely entitled when you in fact have no entitlements to begin with. Designers owe you nothing, especially people that openly support piracy and will do it anyways, regardless of any 'legitimate' routes existing or not.
I'd like to know how it's possible for anyone to pirate a model if no one will be willing to help them out? If you have a foreign IP, you're not getting in. Koreans are very familiar with what happens when you proxy buy for foreigners, and are therefore very apprehensive to help anyone not Korean. So I'd like to know how closing off all doors to anyone except locals 'increases' piracy? If anything, opening the doors for foreign sales just opens the floodgates for people to take advantage of your generosity.
Closing off your borders minimizes your risk in the best way possible. Of course, to entitled children such as yourself, you'll view it as the worst thing ever since there are now things out there that you can't have. You're not getting the rest of the pieces to this if you're not a member, and you can't join if you're a foreigner. Good luck trying to find a workaround. Why should /po/ as a community show respect for anyone who does not respect them? Bad argument #2 Tu quoque.
Classic example of an irrevesible equation: designers can exist without /po/, but /po/ can't exist without designers. It's not the designers disrespecting /po/, it's /po/ having already disrespected designers and now whining about designers not giving /po/ files. Why would a designer release files to a community that does not respect him. Oh wait, that's EXACTLY THE PROBLEM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW!
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to do something. The designer sells models like this with the understanding that they are for that person's use only. If you spread the model for everyone else to get for free, that goes directly against the stipulations the designer gave you.
Making you an asshole pirate. Also, that entire last sentence The flawed logic you're spouting out is astounding. Not even gonna dignify that with a response.
As covered it quite well. You are absolutely right about it being wrong pirating hard work that someone is selling that work intended for private, single use.
Work that they have ownership or right to sell. If you are selling work derived from someone else's work, that you do not have owners permission to sell in the first place just because you live in a country that doesn't respect that ownership (international copyright law), you cannot expect any respect. That is where the disrespect starts. Get off your high horse your arguments in this situation are no more valid than any other ones here on the matter. Except the cosplay analogy is bullshit, as they ARE selling them for a profit.
If a cosplayer made Gundam costume kits and sold them, it doesn't matter how much effort he had to put into designing them, it is copyright infringement. Bad argument #2 Tu quoque. flawed logic If it was just /po/ and specifically pirates that were excluded, then I could agree with you here, but all Westerners are excluded whether they are pirates or not. Instead of finding an appropriate solution to the problem that respects everyone involved, the Korean designers simply cut off an entire hemisphere.
That is disrespectful as well. EXACTLY THE PROBLEM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW! And seeing as the things that are wanted most are eventually found and leaked sooner or later, the pirates seem to have found a solution to it. You need to brush up on Korean copyright laws. While it may be illegal in the US, in Korea It's a-ok to sell something that you created, even if it is derived from another person's work or designs.
So all those gundams and other mecha they make and sell? Keep trying, you're only embarrassing yourself more with each post you make trying to rationalize the asshole-ish behavior people like you glamourize. Instead of finding an appropriate solution to the problem that respects everyone involved, the Korean designers simply cut off an entire hemisphere. That is disrespectful as well.
It's not being disrespectful, it's them trying to cover their asses as much as possible. How can you trust people you will never meet face to face? It's much easier to sell to a small local clique than to anyone and everyone.
Also, how the hell would they know who visits /po/ or not? This place is completely anonymous. Keep trying to rationalize, you're wrong and you know it, you're just afraid to admit it.
And seeing as the things that are wanted most are eventually found and leaked sooner or later, the pirates seem to have found a solution to it. That method has been all but stopped thanks to no Western sales. Korean designers mark their files in various ways for each customer so they know who they sell to. If your file gets posted online for everyone to grab, all it takes is someone watching out for leaked stuff to notify the Koreans and then that user will promptly be banned and blacklisted from being sold to.
Considering that Korean communities take a lot of work building and showing off your work to be able to even BUY models, and with Korean builders and customers being aware of all this, that explains why they do not want to help foreigners. Too easy to lose all that work you strived for. So, I wouldn't expect to see anything leaked for a long time. If ever again. So much for sharing and caring huh? 100% legal Okay, so as long as it's legal in some countries, it's okay to ride on Gundam's coattails. You want to know how much money they'd make if they made 100% original designs instead of fanboy fodder?
Precisely dick, my friend. rationalize the asshole-ish behavior I'm saying that there are dicks on both sides. You are saying that their asshole behavior to an entire hemisphere is okay because some people on that hemisphere were assholes. If asshole behavior is excusable on one side, then asshole behavior is excusable on both sides. It's not legal per International Copyright Law or per the country from where the design is used from. It is just that Korean courts do not entertain rightful claims from other countries. In other words 'We (Koreans) can steal the work of others and do what we will with it, including profit from it.
If you steal the work we generated from work that we stole, you disrespect us, damn you!' Hypocritical much? Don't get me wrong, I believe that their work is worth profiting from. Problem is they are stealing someone else's work (and owned property). They are using someone else's property to profit from, not paying for that right, and boo-hooing when someone steals from them and shares WITHOUT PROFIT. Get them a fucking tissue, WAAAH!
Just a side note you are arguing pirating on a pirate ship. Don't like it walk the plank and GTFO. 4chan is all about pirating. The only reason for this board to exist is to share things not easily found. The only reason anyone including you and every other 'anon' is here is to 'find' that model they can't find elsewhere.
You and everyone else here has something pirated on their drive that they got here and that is why you come back. Yet you get on your high horse and defend these xenophobes. Why because you have some other access and you don't want the models that make you feel special to get out to the common folk. While you defend the designers, you are probably doing a 'group buy' because that doesn't disrespect the designer, now does it, Chapsy or PA. implying /po/ has anyone that knows how or would even bother to do this Yes, it is. Just because it's illegal in your country and attaching your opinions on the matter to it does not make it 'not OK'.
If asshole behavior is excusable on one side, then asshole behavior is excusable on both sides. Again, they're not being assholes.
You're just perceiving them as such because you don't have access to pirate their works anymore. Grow up and look at things from an adult perspective then try again. thinking I'm chapsy or pa I'm insulted that you would think I'm one of those assholes. It's because of people like them and you that I have no way to buy the stuff I was once able to. Do you know how much work I put in to building my reputation over at Justpaper??? Fuck those clowns. We (Koreans) can steal the work of others and do what we will with it, including profit from it.
If you steal the work we generated from work that we stole, you disrespect us, damn you!' Also, if it indeed IS illegal in an international sense, then why has Bandai not bothered to threaten the Korean designers with a C&D? Pretty sure it has something to do with how much money they're making.
You all seem to think that Koreans are raking in the dough and are millionaires doing this stuff. The fact is they're not. Not even the Japanese designers that sell their stuff once a year barely break even most times. Papercrafting is a niche hobby and not a lucrative business for most people. Simply put, it literally wouldn't be worth Bandai's time to try and sue some small time papercrafters overseas. It's the same exact thing with Hasbro/Takara Transformers and 3rd Party figures. You're also forgetting the sellers on Taobao and other sites that sell prints of their works, so it's not necessarily 'sharing without profit'.
Again, you may not agree with it, but the only ones in the wrong here are people like you. I see you're really good at ignoring the other side's arguments completely. I post on many places, /po/ is one of them. Although I'll I don't post here very often.
A friend pointed me to this thread and it irked me because attitudes like this are what got me and all others like me banned from buying anything ever again, although we did nothing wrong. You're strawmanning pretty hard if you think my words paint every user here as a pirate.
Not every person that caused a problem for the Koreans came from /po/, but the whole 'fuck the designers, they owe us everything because we said so!' Mentality seems to be pretty common here, even though it's not written in the rules anywhere on 4chan.
Although, the way people talk about it here you'd figure it was written in stone. There are at least a couple of other people that have been sharing my sentiments on the issue in this thread, so I'm most certainly not alone in this regard. /po/ could be so much better than it ever was or is now, but that will require a major attitude change, which I don't see happening with people like the ones in this thread perpetuating the toxic mindset they share towards papercraft as a whole. Why would I accept help from people that fucked things up for honest people? Because even you recognize that the moral high ground isn't going to fix the situation. Let's say a pirate gets into that community and gets things out. Obviously, they are things you want since you said outright that you put so much effort into trying to get in to said community in the first place.
Would you simply ignore them now that they're freely available? Just not download them? What would the point be in that?
You'd be depriving yourself, but you wouldn't be fixing anything. Your self-righteousness is masturbatory. would you ignore them now that they're freely available? Yes I would, because I respect designers and their wishes. I have no ill will towards the designers for this situation, only the pirates who fucked everything up. I've resigned myself to not getting anything new from Korean designers. I am OK with that.
What I am not OK with is entitled little shits that think like you taking advantage of other's kindness and shifting all over it by spreading their hard work around as if it's nothing, making all foreigners look bad in the process. People like you ruin the hard work honest hobbyists put in to building their reputations in those communities. That's where my problem lies. You preach that your method is the only 'right ' way, yet all you're doing is lying, deceiving, and cheating your way into fucking honest people over. Not to mention that your supposed 'right' method STILL wouldn't fix anything because once the files spread around and the Koreans saw whose file was spread, yet another source for your piracy would be cut off.
How many times are you going to repeat the same mistakes before you realize piracy isn't the answer? You can only burn so many bridges and piss so many people off before you have no way left to get anything. Also, your self righteousness is masturbatory Funny, I could say the same thing about the mentality of many a pirate. My point stands. Your ignoring them and not downloading them? Completely irrelevant to anyone but you.
It will not fix anything. It will not make the Koreans change their minds. They will continue to treat you like scum as you honor them. piracy isn't the answer Of course it isn't. There is no answer. As said above, there is no course of action that will make everything all sunshine and rainbows. If there was, then yes, it would be dumb to encourage pirating because there would be a chance of reparation.
But there's not. So there's no point in fighting the pirates, you might as well sit back and enjoy whatever they happen to liberate every once in a while. And supporting piracy and simply dismissing it as 'oh well, this is the only way we can get new stuff. Whatevs I guess.' Won't help things either. It will only make the situation worse and continue to piss people off.
Piracy of paper models is not the same as pirating a movie, album, or game. The impact of pirating a designer's work continuously will almost always be far more damaging than that of more mainstream media. Piracy of paper models isn't as harmless as you think. Take a look around and look at the designers that have either stopped designing altogether (inner brain is one example I can think of) or have gone full paranoid mode (masamune, Korean designers) because of all this garbage.
Shit, like another anon said, there are a fair amount of designers we'll never even know about because of fears of their works being pirated. You can keep thinking it's harmless or not a big deal all you want, but if you objectively look at situations like these you can't deny that piracy causes far more trouble than it's worth. Now how do you know that?
If these people treated them with respect and supported them instead of lying and deceiving them we'd look much better in their eyes wouldn't we? I said it would take an attitude change for /po/ to get better, and this part of what I was talking about. This place is regarded as such a shithole because people constantly bite the hand that feeds them. Maybe if you all showed a little courtesy things wouldn't be so bad.
Or you could keep blaming the situation on those mean old racist Koreans being elitist pricks instead. That should definitely make things better. It's worked pretty well so far, after all.
So how is continued piracy going to fix the issue? If both ways are 'stalemates', so to speak, which would look better?
Actually attempting to turn around and show respect to those that were wronged, or keep on shitting all over them in a 'Yea! Take THAT you xenophobes!' Manner until there's nothing left/able to be pirated anymore?
You can bitch about me not changing anything all you want, but actually trying to do something and hoping that people can read these posts and reevaluate their stance on the issue, hopefully changing things for the better down the road is infinitely better than doing nothing at all. Even moreso than continuing the shit that made things the way they are now in the first place. You keep talking about fixing the issue. There is no fixing the issue. To do that you would have to make 4chan stop pirating things, OR make the Korean designers willing to work with Western users to find an amicable solution.
It should be self-evident that neither of these things is ever going to happen. I used to be just like you. I used to white knight the fuck out of this place, and get bent out of shape about the fact that piracy is a thing. But then I realized I was beating my head against a concrete wall over PAPER of all things, and let me tell you, man does it ever feel good to let it go. fucking honest people over LOL! The Koreans are the most dishonest little shits in this hobby!
What is worse is they are so smug and self-righteous about it while they do it. Kinda like you right now. They use the hard work of others to make their models from, don't pay for the right to use that work, and then turn around and sell it. They don't 'get into trouble' over it because 'Bandai doesn't feel it is worth the trouble'. It is because Korea shields them from any trouble. Korea does not entertain or pay any mind to rightful claims of theft of IP by their citizens.
Their courts snub their noses at the world community on a whole, just as the designers of papercraft in Korea snub their nose at the rest of the papercraft community. They never wanted to share anything with non-Koreans in the first place.
They are better than me or YOU in their minds. And your self-righteousness is fooling no one. I can guarantee YOU have a bootleg copy of the Gear Heart on your hard-drive, as well as several bootleg Korean mechas, just like everyone else here. None of which you earned or paid for.
If you hadn't picked up any bootleg models by now from here, you wouldn't be hanging around here anymore. That is all this place is good for, has ever been good for, and it is barely good for that anymore. Again this is a pirate ship and if you aren't down with some looting, then you are retarded and pathetic for wasting any time here at all. Let me reiterate in case you still don't get it. Korea has no respect for the rights or ownership of peoples from other nations. They use the work of others to derive any of their work from. When an outside entity comes knocking demanding that their citizen(s) answer for the theft, their country just doesn't answer the door.
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And you talk of how we should respect them, WTF? Little more food-for-thought, many of the 'pirated' Korean models I have gotten, I got from a couple of Koreans I trade with. Seems although it is much easier to get non-Korean models, there are some models outside their borders they have trouble with.
They also routinely post, share, and trade models of non-Korean designers on their sites/cafes. So please, get a clue.
I have the head everybody is freaking out about. You dumbass, are tempting me with your naive, uninformed jerk off fest on this pirate ship. Again, this board exists solely for the sharing (pirating) of models that can't just be found lying about. If you will pay attention that hasn't been happening much for the past year. Your constant 'praise be the arrogant, thieving, disrespectful, hypocritical Koreans' is stirring up the hornets nest and is going to provoke what you are railing so hard against. The Koreans do NOT respect the rights and ownership of the IPs they use to create their paper replicas from.
They do NOT respect the works of other designers, they respect nothing and you expect everyone here to bow at their feet, you have lost your mind. over PAPER of all things You keep missing the point. It's not about the paper, it's the hard work of others being tossed around like it's nothing and fouling of relations between international communities that is the problem. I'm going to ignore the petty ad hominems laced throughout your little diatribe and stick to the main arguments you're presenting, even though they've been covered in this thread already. They use the hard work of others to make their models from, don't pay for the right to use that work, and then turn around and sell it Because it is legal for them to do so. Just because it is illegal and wrong in your country to do this does not make it any less legal or more wrong in theirs.
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I'd also like some sources of their courts 'snubbing' their noses at the world over theft of IP, and not just you being butthurt that their communities are now closed off to you. Keep in mind they never had any obligation to open up their communities in the first place, but due to popular demand they gave it a try and this is what they got. Are you telling me if you were in their shoes you wouldn't do the same thing? I can guarantee YOU have a bootleg copy of the Gear Heart on your hard-drive, as well as several bootleg Korean mechas, just like everyone else here. I'd be interested to know how you can guarantee this. That's mighty presumptuous of you to make a claim like that with zero ability to back up your claims. Stop making yourself look like a fool because you're mad.
Little more food-for-thought, many of the 'pirated' Korean models I have gotten, I got from a couple of Koreans I trade with. Good luck trying to do that nowadays. With how hard it is to build a reputation to even buy models at Korean cafes and all the time and work involved in it, you're going to have a hard time finding a dishonest Korean willing to help you. (cont.) Koreans are well aware of how widespread piracy is in foreign communities and 'secret groups' and how quickly the files they share with a select few or even an individual can spread like wildfire. You're going to have a helluva time finding someone willing to help you out in that regard, and if they do I'm willing to bet you wouldn't share anything here or elsewhere anyhow so you could protect your elite pirate status and your fragile connections. After all, that's why you haven't posted the Black Lion Head yet, right? You recognize how 'rare' it is and how hard it is to obtain, and you're just waiting for an excuse in the form of my words pissing you off to post it.
Yet another flaw of the piracy mindset. It's all about how big and rare your collection is and how 'elite' you are and yearning for more instead of simply enjoying what you have and actually building it.
You can say I'm a fool for trying to preach on deaf ears, but don't kid yourself that piracy is some 'divine retribution' for the Koreans being so mean and nasty to us when in fact they tried opening their doors to us in an effort to be at least somewhat inclusive. People like you shat all over that and there's no one to blame but yourselves. By the way, there IS no rule stating that rare and premium templates are to be shared here. That's a grey area exploited by pirates to justify their behavior. The only reason that hasn't 'been happening the past year' is because almost all sources for your thievery are dried up, and the previous few goods that you were able to get were so hard to you won't share anything because you'll both lose those last few connections and you'll also lose the upper-hand you have over other pirates. Keep on trying rationalize, it's adorable. There's more of that rationalization.
You guys just can't get past that, can you? Spreading a designer's premium models (as in, ones that they sell.) as if they're free little cubeecrafts whittles away at their motivation to design new things until they just give up. Seriously, if you spent hundreds or thousands of hours and sold your work to be compensated for the time you spent designing what you did, and it was spread by pirates everywhere to just sit on their hard drives never to be built, that wouldn't piss you off in the slightest? You can argue that 'oh, it's just money they lose, whatever.' But when you have customers buy your work, they're far more likely to actually enjoy and build their investment instead of just letting the data rot somewhere on a portable hard drive.
Never said I was a designer. I'm a builder. People on /po/ are collectors People on /po/ are collectors People on /po/ are collectors I'm a I'm a YOU are a person (I think) and YOU are on /po/. Read your post again, lol. I'll say it again, FACT: NO ONE keeps coming back to /po/ unless they are looking for bootleg stuff.
Try HARDER, you are failing miserably. You just proved it with the last part of this post and the fact about this place and what it is. The only way you could prove otherwise is to GO AWAY, LO bleeping L! Where have you gotten the idea that anybody ITT is trying to justify piracy?
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Read those and tell me again how nobody is 'justifying piracy' We know it's bad and we don't care. Therein lies the problem. You'll keep pirating more and more until there's nothing left. No one to design anything, nothing. You can justify it as retribution for their attitudes or any other plethora of reasons, but the fact of the matter is you're all making the situation worse. I should mention that not only do Korean designers have their works pirated, but plenty of other countries that do sell models 'legally' (when you compare laws with US anyhow.) still have their works pirated. (the Japanese come to mind.) Where's the respect for those people?
Do they not deserve any because they don't sell directly to you? Even though they're legally not able to?
The amount of mental gymnastics at play here is astounding. listing benefits involved =/= justifying it we don't deny it, but we still think it's OK to do these things because we view them as hypocrites, even though I just stated they're technically in the right. Seriously, listen to yourselves. You seriously just admitted that the things you're doing aren't right and you're in the wrong, yet you don't care that you're making things worse, all for some silly debacle over who is more 'right' then the other. You guys are really something else. I'm speechless. Because I'd hope that at least some of you would recognize that the shit you're doing is slowly killing the hobby, The more your go against the designer's wishes, the less motivation they have to keep doing what they do.
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Keep this up, and more and more designers will quit until all you have left is shitty gamerips and cubeecrafts. Hell, we're halfway there already.
This is pretty much common sense, yet the vast majority of you 'don't care' either because you're trying to wage some silly war over how 'wrong' you think the Korean's methods are (which is bollocks because Japanese stuff gets pirated just about as often, if not more often lately), or you're just trying to win some cool points with anons who will never build what you share. I don't know whether to be awestruck or deeply saddened by the lack of caring and common sense on display here. Slowly killing the hobby There will always be talented people who create models just for the love of the hobby and release for free or if not, can handle piracy. It isn't a binary choice between korean secret clubs or cubeecraft and gamerips.
the vast majority of you 'don't care' either because you're trying to wage some silly war. We don't care because they're already withholding the models from us to the point we can't even obtain legitimately, so if they stop making the models entirely, nothing changes for us. Call it selfish but it isn't our job to protect their egos. There will always be talented people who create models just for the love of the hobby and release for free or if not, can handle piracy. I think that's a pretty big stretch there. If those people are around, how come I never see any of their stuff posted here or talked about?
Because you guys don't care about them. You only care about what you can't have. Everyone has their breaking point, and as long as you keep this mindset going and pissing more designers off, there will eventually only be a binary choice between shitty gamerips or cubeecrafts. We don't care because they're already withholding the models from us to the point we can't even obtain legitimately And why do you think they're withholding those models? Because people like you went completely against their stipulations for allowing purchase of their models and shared them freely online.
To protect their work they stopped selling to foreigners. You're crying foul when it's people like you who pissed them off in the first place. I bring up my point of Japanese models again. They pay hefty licensing fees to sell their models once a year at hobby events, and I've seen a lot of their stuff being thrown around as well. You have avenues to legitimately buy their designs. Where's the respect for them? Case in point, you respect no one.
You just don't want to admit it under the guise of 'Those Koreans were nasty to us first!' Keep this up, and more and more designers will quit until all you have left is shitty gamerips and cubeecrafts. Julius Perdana has his models pirated, even sold on some Chinese pirate sites. He makes models for the love of the hobby and RESPECTS the original IP owners by not selling, and with his models being pirated he still makes and shares. Why, because he isn't a little crybaby bitch, and realizes he has no right to the subject matter to begin with. There are many other quality designers with the same mindset. Nice try tho.
So you named one. 'There are many other quality designers with the same mindset' is pretty general and I honestly think you're being pretty generous with the 'quality' part. Julius has plenty of problems with his models, regardless of how nice a person he is. I wonder if someone will ever comment on why Japanese designs are pirated when they pay to be able to sell their designs and yet they still get pirated.
Are you too scared to answer that one because it totally goes against your reasoning for pirating Korean designs? Why is it OK to pirate from group who supposedly is 'wrong' but you still pirate from people who do it 'right'? Julius Perdana Uhm, have you BUILT any of his papercraft? There are too many parts that don't line up with their marks without adjustments, ridiculous tiny-teeth gluetabs, laziness with textures, making the models larger to try to overcome the poor build quality, lack of originality, only uses others IP or ordinary subjects, and other problems.
There are many other quality designers with the same mindset. I would like to see your list of 'many other quality designers' who have been pirated and still freely release papercraft. There really are just two major kinds of designers, those doing it because they need attention, and those who actually enjoy the hobby and do it with or without attention. It's the same problem as with producing any content. Music, video, anything. One it touches the internet, it is out of your control. The answer is finding a distribution model that includes this phenomenon instead of fighting against it.
Take a look at Jonathan Coulton. He makes more money than some music artists signed with major labels.
His music is available on his site to stream for free in full. He includes a donation option in case you've already downloaded it from elsewhere. By making his music as freely available as possible and also making it as easy as possible to either pay the asking price or just give him whatever you feel like, he makes money. Once it touches the internet Simple: don't post it anywhere.
He's right to not release it. BAWWWWWWW i cant have it so i'll pretend i dont care Been repeated many times already, try something original. Generic Gundam #4096 Which Gundam is this if it doens't exist as papercraft yet? Always good to see something new. don't design super detailed intricate mecha '1st scratch design' already looks incredibly detailed. release anything to people like this.
If it is released anywhere they rabidly work to get it, then cry here when they can't (e.g. This thread). Not releasing anywhere is the answer. If you're implying that would even be worth the effort most designers put towards their work you're hilariously naive. When you spend hundreds or thousands of hours designing something from scratch, even if it's something from an existing IP, you better believe that they should expect to not just hand it out for free. There needs to be some sort of compensation involved, and I can guarantee you that many a designer don't run off of 'warm fuzzy feelings' as compensation for their hard work.
The only two options where this will work is everyone gets their head out of their asses and starts respecting designers and their work and not spreading them everywhere, either free or in super secret clubs. Or: People that don't want to deal with all the pirate BS simply stay anonymous, don't sell to foreigners, don't release period, or any other myriad combination of things that basically cut people off so they can protect their work. The way things are going, we'll be stuck in the latter for a very, very long time.
Sure, it would be good if the designer could earn money from donation, but now, there are the people who makes the payments. Of course, a lot of people get together to pay, but seriously, how many people do you think will actually pay to let others get new models?
If I were a designer, I would probably expect like.let's say about 5060$?? If one person pays just 1$, it would take 5060 people, but there isn't that much people in this hobby. I've been to a lot of site that runs on donations, and I've hardly seen any sites that manage to get the money they need and they usually end up closing.
If a designer releases his models when there's a certain amount of donations, I'd say it would take a lo-ng time for one to come out. Pure fantasy. A few dollars may be made by the designer in a few years.
But 99.9% copies of the files will be free, and most of that reposted to pirate boards with URL and email removed, sold on russian and asian online stores with no royalties to designer. Designer will have supplied free papercraft, making far more money for others than he will ever get, and he'll quickly loose interest and probably stop designing due to IRL shit like bills, family, multiple jobs, taxes, and the realization that even though there are thousands of copies of the files out there, all he knows about are a dozen 'thank you' emails and the 2 people who ever paid. There is no business model for online distribution that works for this, unless you're a major corporation with the government and law enforcement backing your copyright protection.
But it doesn't matter either way, as long as /po/opers get the files. I came across this custom Voltron model done by a South Korean artist named GwiJang and thought I would share it. It's fully transformable from the five individual lions to Voltron and made entirely out of paper. Below are some links to his blog and YouTube video.
I've been trying to contact him to see if his work is for sale but have yet to be successful. I know the RPF is a vast wealth of knowledge so if anyone has some additional information about GwiJang and his Voltron model I would greatly appreciate it. We must find a model! We must make it to wear!
Surely someone knows something????I did some snooping around this morning. So designer GwiJang occasionally releases segments of the black lion to certain members of the papercraft community as a sort of 'challenge build.' If they post pictures of themselves piecing it together, he then gives them the PDO (pepakura) files of the next few segments. I've reached out to one of these guys to see if he knows what GwiJang's release plans are. I'd love to give this a shot as well! I've been working on a model of the 25th anniversary Voltron toy to refine some of the details and 3d print a model kit but then I came across this elsewhere on the Internet and haven't bothered with the old model. I really want to convert this papercraft to a 3d printable model kit but there's so much detail, even with the wealth of photographs and video, I can't lock down a good approach.
It's a shame he isn't sharing or selling the PDF anymore but who can blame him? So instead, I've opted to let this one inspire me to create an original design, drawing from elements of Gypsy Danger and Striker Eureka from Pacific Rim for the way things go together (more mechanical details visible beneath the outer armor) but with the intention to make it fully articulated and transformable, more so than a paper model since 3d printing has many more capabilities for various shapes.
Even so, I can't really figure where to begin and I'm not much of a designer so I guess I'm poking my head in to see if anyone has suggestions for references to other mechs, zoids and giant robots to use as a starting point for the various features.